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Hi Scott. Hope you are well and everything is good in Atlanta. How is looking for band members going?
Hey man! Aside from the fact that it’s rained every day for the past few months everything is good in Atlanta. Work and training are going very well. Band members? Ha-ha! I literally just got my drum kit cleaned up and tuned for the first time in about 12 years. I’ve been shaking the rust off and getting my chops back but no plans to play in another band anytime soon. Unless of course my buddy Jeremy ever needs someone to fill in for Comeback Kid, I’d definitely consider hitting the road then!

Here’s a cool story, recently Jamey Jasta had Alissa White-Gluz and Doyle on his podcast and Doyle made the comment about how one of his favourite tours was the Misfits with Anthrax, Cannibal Corpse and Life of Agony. That tour happened in 1996. I was playing in a metal band, Somnus, out of the Akron / Cleveland, Ohio area. When they came through Cleveland we were one of the bands on the bill with them at the World Series of Metal at the legendary Agora Theatre and Ballroom. The night before the show Michael Graves ended up in jail. Instead of cancelling, Jerry, Doyle and Chud played and tons of different people came up to sing. John Bush who was singing for Anthrax at the time, Scott Ian, Joey Z and Minna Caputo from Life of Agony came out, Corpsegrinder sang, my friend Dann from Blood Coven, who we shared a practice space in Akron with, got to sing Attitude – dude it was an amazing show! So glad I was able to be there and play on that bill-definitely a great memory from my metal days!

For those who are not familiar with your work, could you please tell more about your background? How did you get involved with strength and conditioning training?
I have been working in the health and fitness industry since early 1998. I have only done personal training and over the past 19 years have averaged around 35,000 hours of training a diverse group of clients everyone from motivated fitness enthusiasts to very high-level athletes and everyone in between. For the most part I work with people individually, or in very small groups, to help them develop the most effective training plan to accomplish their goals. I got involved with strength and conditioning training early on in my career. As I was finishing my degree I was considering being a strength and conditioning coach. In 2003, I got the opportunity to spend a day in the weight room with the Atlanta Falcons. Going in you would think training NFL players would be the most amazing job ever, but instead that day I decided I’d much rather work in the private sector. I saw some athletes who were training their asses off and really seemed to care, and some who really didn’t give a shit. By working with people privately you are weeding out the ones who don’t give a shit. Honestly, I find I enjoy working with younger athletes, particularly high school age, as that is where their most important development occurs. By the time athletes make it to the professional level it seems to be more about keeping them healthy than getting them much stronger and faster.

What are the projects you have been working on lately? Anything new coming down the pipe? New books? Workshops? Travels?
Yeah quite a few things I’m trying to get done. I have three books I’m in the initial stages with. Currently I’m writing one geared toward powerlifting for vegans. I’m struggling with this one as I believe all the best training information is already out there. The work of Louie Simmons, Dave Tate and the rest at Elite FTS, Matt Wenning, Donnie Thompson, the late Fred Hatfield, I mean how can you add anything to their collective body of work? I guess it is really going to be an introduction to powerlifting for vegan lifters. I want to put together something that would help vegans who are interested in powerlifting get started the right way. There will be sections on nutrition, training, preparing for powerlifting meets, powerlifting equipment, an exercise index, what to look for in hiring a coach or trainer, a complete exercise index, and a section devoted to building and managing your own training plan. Like I said, I am struggling with this one a bit but I think if I do it correctly it will be a good introduction for the vegan, or veg curious lifter. I have also outlined a book for strength and conditioning for combat athletes, and one about strength and health.
It's tough to take on a lot of new projects as I am logging some serious hours in the gym with clients, but I’m slowly chipping away at them. I’m always open for speaking opportunities and workshops and would love to start doing some travelling so I can get out to other gyms and training facilities and work with people outside of the Atlanta area. I’d love to do some more stuff with combat athletes throughout the country and internationally. What you see regarding physical preparation for combat sports can be improved tremendously. There are some great coaches and trainers out there. Joel Jamieson does a great job with fighters and his book is a must-have, Tom Barry up at Westside Barbell is doing amazing things with their fighters, Martin Rooney has always done great things, Sabina Skala is doing awesome work as well. However, many others in the industry seem to leave a lot of holes in their fighter’s physical preparation programs. I’d also love to do some workshops for people who are focused strictly on health and longevity.

What surprised me was that you have written few books about golf. It is not a popular subject in strength and conditioning community, where most are oriented to deadlift an elephant. How did that happen?
When I moved to Atlanta I got a really good job working for a country club’s fitness centre. I actually worked there full time from 1999 to 2011 and was the director from 2006 on. That was when I realized what a market for fitness in golf there was. So many of these people had bad backs, poor posture and other injuries that really inhibited their ability to play. Many of the people I worked with were what you’d consider “recreationally competitive” – they take golf very seriously but will never make a living doing it. I found by working with them on things like mobility, flexibility and basic strength all of them began playing better immediately. They had more power, greater range of motion and all of them had to reset their clubs because they were hitting everything so much further. I actually have a guy I have been training for a few years now and when he came to me was dealing with massive back pain. He hadn’t played golf in 2 or 3 years. After only 3 months, and a lot of work on my reverse hyper bench, he played his first 18-hole round in years and was pain free. I had actually worked on a golf training project with a former business partner for a while, but didn’t have as much time to devote to it, so it eventually became my EP Golf book. The book is perfect for the recreational golfer who needs better fitness for both health and performance. For higher level players I would do things differently programming-wise.

You have also published and written other books. Could you please tell us more about them?
Yeah, most are industry specific books and manuals. One is a general strength program for young athletes, one is about training for military and first responder types, there are a couple on kettlebell training, and one for people who are focused on a holistic approach to health and wellness.

I also co-authored a book with Stic of the hip hop duo Dead Prez and his wife Afya. Stic had a goal of gaining some muscle, he is a skinny dude who loves healthy living and distance running. He wanted to gain 20 lbs of muscle while eating a whole food plant-based diet in four months. No supplements, pills or powders, just whole plant foods. He also wanted to keep up his distance running. I did his strength training and Afya took care of his nutrition and in only 2.5 months he had accomplished his goal. After his 20lb gain, we leaned him back down and took off the little bit of fat he had put on and after getting him shredded he had a net gain of 13lbs of lean mass and had reduced his bodyfat by about 2% from the 9.5% he started with to 7.5% after which was awesome. His transformation became the book, “Eat Plants, Lift Iron”, and is proof that you can easily build strength and muscle mass being vegan.

You, and few other guys, are from generation when, I think, being fit/strong/athletic was more important than the look and beach body. How I see it - being strong is a gateway to other things not just a goal itself. Do you agree?
Absolutely. Being strong and able to move well is crucial for health. Physique is more about your nutrition. If you eat healthy you will be lean and have the look. I’m not talking about bodybuilding or physique competition, that is a different level. But to have that lean, muscular athletic look all it takes is training and healthy eating and doing it all the time. The consistency is the important point there. Forget about a 12-week transformation, eat healthy and train hard for 10 years then let me know how you look and feel. Train for life, not the upcoming summer at the beach.

Other thing I want to focus on is that you give a lot to others. What I mean by that is for example your youtube channel, your books, this interview. I think it is not too popular nowadays when regular PT is ME-oriented. What do you think?
Yeah, I try to provide a ton of content and do my best to help everyone who reaches out to me. I have worked my ass off for nearly two decades and still feel like I’ve only scratched the surface. I think it is important to give back and help others where you can. If I can do that through my YouTube channel and blog/video blog, and it helps strength and health enthusiasts or other trainers, then right on. I know it’s cliché but I try to be a student to those further ahead of me on this journey, a teacher to those behind me and a colleague to those beside me.

Honestly, I don’t write a lot about “me” because no one gives a shit about “me” or “you”. When people are looking for information they want to know what you can do for them. How can you help them accomplish their goals. You aren’t going to do that by posting selfies and motivational quotes. You will help them by profiling your clients and athletes and sharing relevant content. The thing is, most of these Instagram trainers are new to the industry and trying to get their name out there. The best way to do that is to get in the gym and work. Train people for 10 years before you even consider writing that ebook or starting your YouTube channel. In this industry content is king and if you work your ass off for 10 years you will have plenty of honest, relevant content to share. You need to work with a bunch of different people and personality types – in person. You need to fail and succeed a lot. If you’re doing the fitness thing to be famous, or more accurately “Instafamous”, you are a moron. Any job in the fitness industry is about service. It’s not about you, it's about your clients. Grow the fuck up and get to work.

And when we are around PT an ME... when did fitness became a soft porn tube?
I don’t know, but it is getting ridiculous. I have no issue with who wants to post what. If you want to have an Instagram page and show pictures of your ass with a stupid motivational quote attached to it and hashtag #blessed #thestruggleisreal #beastmode and #fitfam whatever. When you try to position yourself as a health and fitness pro by doing that shit is where I think it needs to stop. 99% of these people have a page full of softcore selfies and in their bio it always says “for online coaching / booking email: This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.” and “save 15% off of discount nutrition’s fat burning stack by using my athlete code: fitbarbie005”. Athlete code. Give me a fucking break. This stuff makes the industry look stupid and needs to stop. If you want to be successful get people results. Period.

The topic you are well known is your support to animals. Could you please tell us how long was your way to plant based diet and what brought you to the conclusion that veganism is the only way to go? And what is wrong with "V" word in your opinion? :)
I stopped eating meat in early 2010, but continued to use some animal based foods and products. Mostly eggs, fish and whey protein. I decided to commit to being vegan on December 31, 2012. My motivations were ethical and had everything to do with animal welfare. I started out eating a healthy, whole food plant based diet and it had a profound effect on my health. After only 4 months of eating whole food plant based I had a physical and it was the first time my labs were perfect. I had lost 50 pounds, my cholesterol had been around 220-230, my blood pressure around 130/85 and my triglycerides had been as high as 300. After going plant-based my cholesterol was at 151 (LDL dropped from 130 to 95), blood pressure was at 102/67, and my triglycerides were at 65. I only wish I’d done this sooner. It wasn’t hard and I really feel it’s the best way for us to eat for the animals, the environment and our health.
The ”V” word. Yeah, vegan has become such a bad word. Honestly I feel it’s due to the people that go about their vegan activism the wrong way. Like when you hear about a celebrity who’s trying vegan, so many angry vegans get bent out of shape. “Oh they’re not vegan because of leather, fur, it’s a publicity stunt, blah blah blah.” Or when someone who’s interested in reducing their intake of animal products, the vegan police come out and critique every little thing they are still doing that isn’t vegan. I mean I’ve seen vegans blast people for watching football because the ball is not synthetic. Are you kidding me? There are like 12 billion pounds of hotdogs and hamburgers being eaten in that stadium and you’re bitching about the material the ball is made out of? It seriously drives me crazy. To me vegan is as simple as don’t eat it, don’t wear it, and try your best to minimize your impact in all other areas of your life because it is almost impossible to not contribute to animal suffering on some level. At the very least if you pay your taxes you are supporting factory farms. So if that doesn’t make me vegan enough, fuck you. Anytime anyone shows interest in vegan, vegetarian, or any form of meat reduction it should be encouraged. Unfortunately, most vegans, who I understand do mean well, are their own worst enemies.

Where you ever in a situation when you said that you are vegan and people around you went hostile all of a sudden? I mean not with their fists but everyone was trying to prove you wrong even though you were like "it is not a big deal that I am a vegan"?
I’ve never had anyone become hostile in anyway. I do get the occasional joke thrown at me, or the typical concern for my health or my impending protein deficiency. Most of the time when I get a lecture it’s from people who are in worse health and shape than me. I find that particularly funny. Honestly though most people are curious and I actually wind up in some pretty positive conversations. I’ve actually had some clients even end up going vegan or becoming serious reductionists and that is awesome. Unfortunately, like most vegans, I have to deal with the stupid bacon jokes quite a bit.

You were a competitive powerlifter and kettlebell master before going vegan. Could you please tell me if you noticed any positive changes between those two periods and your sport capabilities while eating meat and later?
Yes, actually I had quit powerlifting before going vegan. Honestly I just wasn’t willing to do the things that I would have had to do to reach the highest levels in the sport. I became more interested in improving my health and one of the things I wanted to do was pursue my interest in Taijiquan. So after I quit powerlifting I started studying Taiji with my Shifu, Shi Deru, who I was a student of for over 5 years. I studied both Yang style and Chen style and really enjoy the Chen style a lot. After going vegan I got back into kettlebell sport and competed in the 2013 and 2014 Florida State Championship that my friends Karen and Jay Trunzo hosted at their kettlebell gym in Sarasota. At 50 lbs lighter than my last competition in 2010, I hit a personal best of 72 reps in the long cycle and won my division which was the 85kg weight class / 20kg bells as well as the overall best lifter in the long cycle both years. That brought me into 2014 where I was invited to be part of Team Plantbuilt. In 2014 they only had a powerlifting team, a CrossFit team and a bodybuilding team so I joined the powerlifting team. Due to a pretty severe shoulder injury I couldn’t squat or bench so I did the deadlift only division with Plantbuilt in 2014 and 2015 as well as some local Atlanta meets – nothing serious, just more at the hobbyist level. What I’ve noticed is that even as I’ve gotten older, I turned 42 this year, eating a plant-based diet has had a profound effect on my recovery after training, my strength hasn’t suffered, and I built back a ton of muscle and am much leaner than ever and I don’t train to be lean or ripped. It makes sense, healthy plant-based foods are loading with vitamins, minerals, enzymes and phytonutrients that have a big impact on our health as well as our body’s ability to recover and repair.

On your plantbuilt.com profile we can read that you " want to be an example that it is possible to be stronger and healthier by adopting a plant-based lifestyle.". Do you think that being a vegan put some kind of responsibility on us to represent the movement the best way possible?
I think it’s important. For the longest time when you heard vegan you’d think of the frail looking weirdo at the health food store. Now we have everyone from endurance to strength and power athletes performing exceptionally well on a vegan diet. Just in the past few years we are seeing more and more interest in plant-based eating as well. This is a great thing. I certainly do my best to be a positive role-model for the community but there are strength athletes and lifters at higher levels than I’ll ever be at who are showing what can be done when you fuel your body with high quality plant-foods. I’m just happy to have a small place in the community and with being able to contribute in any way I can.

Could you please tell us how your training routine looks like nowadays?
I am a big proponent of the conjugate method and have been following Louie Simmons’ work since around 2000 when I began seeing his article in Powerlifting USA. I hate the idea of a training program. Like if you go buy a book or an app then plug in your 1 rep maxes and bam, now you have this program to follow. The conjugate method allows you to adjust things on a weekly or daily basis to focus on what you need right now. It allows you to take into account your daily physical readiness while addressing all factors of training concurrently. You don’t have to run a 12-week cycle to find out you didn’t make any progress. With the conjugate method, you can monitor your strength and speed on a weekly basis and work weak points, build muscle, etc as needed. I use conjugate training with all of my athletes as well and it allows me to develop programs for each individual very easily, no one is following exactly the same plan because no one is at the same level of readiness, has the same weak points, etc. at any one time.

My strength training is not static as I adjust it weekly based on what I need, but the plan looks like this:
Monday: dynamic effort bench press
Tuesday: max effort squat/deadlift
Thursday: max effort bench press
Friday: dynamic effort squat/deadlift

I work kettlebells into the accessory work I do on each day as well. I do a lot of the kettlebell press and snatch exercises on upper body days and jerks and long cycle exercises on the lower body days. The rest of the accessory work is built around the main lifts – triceps, upper back and lats for the bench days and lower back, glutes, hamstrings on squat/deadlift days. I do a ton of ab work daily. I also do 1-2 small extra workouts for the lower body and 1-2 small extra workouts for the upper body weekly wherever I can fit them in. These are used to hit exercises I didn’t get to in the main training session, do more focused work for weak muscles, and do pre-had work for any nagging injuries.
I try to do some mobility and flexibility work daily as well as some exercises that are more geared toward recovery and restoration, like Indian club swinging and light sled dragging. I try to meditate and practice Taijiquan and qigong daily as well. I love the moving meditation aspect of Taiji and qigong and it provides a great balance to the more intense strength training I do.

What are the most important things to keep in mind for someone who is starting their adventure in astonishing world of powerlifting and/or kettlebells?
First decide if you really want to compete in these as sports, and if so how far are you willing to go. The majority of the people who compete in both of these sports are hobbyists, which is great. The higher you move up the competitive ladder the more you have to be willing to sacrifice your health to some extent. If you are going to go balls to the wall and compete at a high level, make your health a priority as much as possible. Do a lot of work to keep your joints and connective tissue healthy. Don’t let your diet get out of control. Monitor your blood work. When you start out you make massive gains initially but after those first few months or so of easy gains be ready to work. Treat these sports as marathons, not sprints. Commit to training hard for a long period of time. The person who stays healthiest the longest has the best potential to do well. You see a lot of flash in the pan superstars who come out of nowhere, hit huge numbers fast, then burnout and disappear. Oh, and DON’T cut weight. No one starts competing in strength sports to get smaller and weaker. Focus on quality lean mass gains over time and grow into your appropriate weight class. I see newbies all the time stressing about cutting weight for a meet and it’s completely stupid and unnecessary.

For some time now you are working with BJJ competitors. Do they use some of the powerlifting/kettlebell sport specific movements to get stronger? Or you do with them something totally different in strength and conditioning matter?
I use “powerlifting” movements with everyone. I mean a squat and deadlift are specific events in powerlifting, but for athletes they are fantastic strength and power developers when properly implemented. Basically, when I work with BJJ athletes, MMA fighters or any athlete outside of powerlifting I focus on getting them as strong as possible, as explosive as possible and develop the necessary energy systems required for their sport. You always have to start with an understanding of the physical qualities they need and then assess where they are currently at, then build their program from there. For the BJJ and MMA athletes I want to use exercises that build strength through the joint angles and ranges of motion required for their sport. I also have to focus on training economy since I usually only get to work with them a few hours weekly. We need to do just enough to make the progress we need and nothing more. They are logging serious time on the mats and in the ring and the stuff we do together needs to enhance that and prepare them for their sport, not hurt them or negatively impact their specific training. Since they are never really off-season conjugate training is perfect. It allows us to train all velocities of strength on a weekly basis so that we can be strong and in great shape all the time. That way when an event rolls around we are just sharpening the blade during the fight camp and can taper them going into the event so that they are strong, healthy and well recovered.

With the fighters we do a lot of work in the belt squat machine, we do box squats in the belt squat for explosive strength, we do a lot of walking and loaded carries in the belt squat as well (something I got from Tom and Louie on a trip to Westside Barbell last year). We do a lot of deadlifting, especially with bands on the bar. I like sumo deadlifts for fighters and most athletes as it builds a huge amount of hip strength and power and is less stressful on the lower back than the conventional deadlift. I like to have them do squats and good mornings with the safety squat bar, good morning lunges with the safety squat bar, and zercher squats – I feel that using a straight bar too often on the back will create unnecessary stress on the shoulders. We don’t do a ton of bench pressing, but do a lot of floor pressing with barbells with chains and bands, kettlebells and dumbbells. I like to have them do 1-arm dumbbell presses on the stability ball or a bench. Bench pressing and overhead pressing with the Bandbell Earthquake bar is awesome for strong and healthy shoulders. Lots of pull-ups and chin-ups – I like to have them take a gi and hang it over the pull-up bar and squeeze the lapel of the gi instead of doing pull-ups straight off the bar, this allows us to build tremendous grip strength while building the back and arms. Again, focus is on training economy. We do a lot of reverse hypers and static torso work as well. Neck work is a staple. They do a ton of sled dragging. We will also implement various aerobic and anaerobic training as needed. I also have them do a lot of joint health work – usually high rep band stuff they can do at home for the shoulders, elbows, and knees.

That is just a snapshot, especially since every athlete is a different puzzle to put together, but it gives a good overview on some things we like to focus on.

I have asked you about S&C because you are for them to make them stronger. Do you think coaches are getting confused sometimes and instead of making athlete stronger or more flexible they are working with them on sport specific movements? And instead of making a footballer more powerful they train his kicking technique?
Yes. All too often strength, or physical preparation coaches as many of them like to be referred to, seem to focus on issues outside of their role. When you are working with an athlete the strength coach’s job is make the athletes strong, conditioned and resilient. Now that is different for every sport and each individual, but you are responsible for their general physical development. They get better at their sport by practicing their sport. It’s completely unnecessary to make them play their sport in the weight room and some of what you see in the “sport specific world” is crazy.

When you train hard you need to recover hard too. What key strategies do you use when it comes to restoration?
Sleep is probably the most underrated strategy. Starting with getting plenty of good quality sleep, going to bed at the same time every night and waking at the same time in the morning is one of the best things you can do. Low intensity exercise done with small extra workouts throughout the week are great for recovery. If you did a huge deadlift workout and are spent the next day, grab a band and do a few sets of good mornings standing on one end of the band with the other over your neck, do a few light sets of reverse hypers, do some light sled dragging. This brings circulation to the muscles and assists in recovery and restoration. The key is to not go hard. You should feel better after a restoration workout. Swinging light clubs is great for the shoulders, elbows and wrists. Stretching and mobility are good for restoration. Aquatic exercise can be therapeutic. Taking advantage of saunas and steam rooms is great if you have access. Contrast showers and cold and hot baths and compresses can be beneficial. Massage and other tissue work is crucial. Meditation should be used. Good nutrition and proper hydration is critical. It blows my mind when “athletes” put all this work in at the gym then go out drinking and partying at night. There are many effective forms of recovery and restoration and like training they should be varied constantly.

What about your diet? Do you have any guidelines you follow when it comes to meal prep?
I don’t really do meal prep. I basically just try to eat most of my calories from whole, plant-based foods. I like the convenience of having a big green smoothie once or twice a day. Usually in one smoothie I get 3-4 servings of greens, a couple servings of fruit and some flax meal, chia and/or hemp seeds. They allow for a lot of high quality nutrition fast. I like to eat oatmeal and am experimenting with this overnight-oats thing – I guess that is kind of meal prep, but it makes my early days easier. I love fruit and eat a lot of it. I eat a lot of beans, tofu, lentils, rice, and quinoa. I try to eat a lot of vegetables although I’m not a big “salad guy”. I think I could live on avocados. I do eat some of the faux meat products as well as my fair share of vegan cookies and donuts as well! I try not to let the junk food get out of hand but certainly could cut back on it at times. I mainly drink water, coffee and tea. I use non-dairy milk as well.

My girlfriend is a big believer that you can take everything from diet, I do believe that if you think about doing sports you should take few supplements. What is your take on that Scott?
Yes, I believe the bulk of your nutrition should come from food. I think there are some things that should be considered when eating a vegan diet such as vitamin B12 and I do think it’s worth considering a vegan sourced EPA/DHA supplement as well. I don’t do a lot of supplements, usually a protein and carb drink around my workout with some creatine. I usually shoot for around 20-30 grams of protein and around 40-60 grams of carbs in that drink. I have found Mike Mahler’s supplements to be beneficial, particularly his Restorazyme and Test Booster, I usually use those when I am training for a competition. All in all my supplement intake is pretty minimal.

You said that " People don’t even look at whole food any more. It’s all about proteins, carbs and fats now, not about micronutrients, phytonutrients, or fiber – forget about whether the food is health promoting or not. It’s just ridiculous to me how diets have become like religion, yet the one thing that is only getting worse is our health. Now you’ve got misinformed people running around saying crap like there’s no difference between cookies and fruit." I am fairly new in this gym-game but when I heard when Kali Muscle said that he eats no fruits because it is all sugar and then the same thing from my gym buddies I couldn't believe it. From where are those bull shit info is coming from in your opinion? And I agree with you 100%, I think that people look at food as math. Add this, take that away, divide it by that and put hand full of supplements from fourth world country - looks like golden rule for more and more people. Why is it so hard for many to acknowledge that all you need to do is eat good, move well and everything will be alright?
You’re right man. I think for the majority of the people they should focus on nutrition first and foremost. Eat a mostly healthy diet made up of a wide variety of whole plant foods. Plenty of fruits, vegetables, beans, legumes, grains, nuts and seeds. It is hard to go wrong if that is the foundation of your nutrition. On top of that drink mostly water. Throw in some good exercise that balances both vigorous exertion that challenges the muscles and cardiovascular system and couple that with a restorative practice like yoga, or something like qigong or Taiji and you will have a very healthy well-balanced plan. Obviously when you start talking about competitive and high-level athletes, things will be different, but that is not the majority of the people out there. Most people need to improve their health and wellness and they need to do so from a holistic standpoint. The whole macros thing is pretty ridiculous in my opinion. I get that physique competitors in particular need to account for pretty much every calorie they consume but the macros thing is tired, particularly when you get people saying the same number of calories and macronutrients of Oreos are no different than apples and almonds. Give me a break.

Some time ago I was listening to an interview that Aleks Salkin did with Pat Flynn and his guest told that "if you can walk for 30min a day as a part of your wellbeing it is a big win". Is it that bad in USA with people conditioning that if you can make it through 30min walk you are a fitness hero?
The US is in bad shape. With the insane amount of access we have to health and fitness information our obesity rates continue to rise, our chronic disease rates continue to rise, it’s horrible. Physical fitness and health education is non-existent in our school system, especially at the younger ages where we need it. The US definitely needs something. We eat shitty food and like everything quick and easy just like our fast food. It is really sad. Health is something an individual needs to take responsibility for. They need to take the time to educate themselves on nutrition, fitness, stress management, and adopting a healthy lifestyle.

Maybe it is a long shot but sometimes I have this strange feeling that modern society was built to take the best from us and get rid of us as soon as possible. Starting for school - learn the basics, how to do tests and how to follow orders. Then you need to get a job and work doing things you hate and destroy yourself as much as possible with low quality food, no sleep, parties over the weekend and no higher purpose or goal. And when you are old enough and your efficiency is lower, you are already damaged enough that doctor will give you some pills so you can still have erection but for not long. Then you die and your place is taken by younger version of you. Do you think that someone designed our lives like that?
I don’t know man, I’ve never really thought about it like that. Maybe it was a result of the industrial revolution, where people were conditioned to the idea that you go to your 40 hour a week job, make just enough to live, take your two-week vacation, etc. Growing up in my day there was always this idea of what you’re “supposed to do”. You graduate high school, you go to college, get your degree, get a job, work hard, get married, have kids, and so on. Dreamers were kind of discouraged. You want to skateboard? You can’t make a living doing that. You want to play in a band? How will you make money? You just need to get a good job. These things get programmed into your head. It seems like my generation was the one that started to realize that the whole idea of a steady job or job security was really just an illusion. Maybe it is because of how technology has affected the way we do business but now more than ever you are seeing people do their own thing, start their own businesses and brands. It’s cool man. People are doing creative things and not placing limits on themselves. I think people are starting to wake up and realize you can do whatever the fuck you want to do in your life, to define success for yourself, as long as you’re honest with yourself and willing to work hard and stay focused. It’s definitely a cool time to be alive!

Thank you very much for your time Scott. Good luck with everything that you are involved in. Stay strong, stay healthy. Last word is for you.
Thanks! I appreciate it and all the best to you!


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